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	<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 08:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on A Thousand Years of Baggage by Jonee Kreuz</title>
		<link>http://culturebot.org/2008/05/02/a-thousand-years-of-baggage/#comment-1194</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonee Kreuz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you'd like to get more information or purchase tickets for this show, call 510/841-6500 or go to www.shotgunplayers.org/beowulf.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;d like to get more information or purchase tickets for this show, call 510/841-6500 or go to <a href="http://www.shotgunplayers.org/beowulf.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.shotgunplayers.org/beowulf.htm</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on From Nellie McKay to Iron Butterfly by jwood</title>
		<link>http://culturebot.org/2008/05/04/from-nellie-mckay-to-iron-butterfly/#comment-1154</link>
		<dc:creator>jwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 00:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw Nellie McKay at the Rubin Museum on Friday night and was really excited to see her in such an intimate setting.  This was the second time I saw her, and it will probably be the last. I appreciate all of her  quirky qualities that everyone always talks about . She has a wonderful voice; I especially like her humor, her political asides, and her off beat jokes.  On Friday night however, McKay was not offbeat, she was just off. She did not acknowledge the audience and in fact did her best to alienate everyone. She made a crack about choosing to shop at Conway rather then preparing for the show. It was evident that she opted for the shopping trip. She lugged along a suitcase full of music books and song sheets  but seemed frustrated and dissatisfied with her own selections--at one point, throwing the sheet music into the air. She was ungracious, disrespectful of her host, the museum, and appeared almost catatonic at times. Nellie McKay is a true talent but her attitude towards the audience was rude at best--and totally unprofessional.  Perhaps McKay should stick with composing and studio gigs--and leave live performances to musicians who are happy connecting with their fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw Nellie McKay at the Rubin Museum on Friday night and was really excited to see her in such an intimate setting.  This was the second time I saw her, and it will probably be the last. I appreciate all of her  quirky qualities that everyone always talks about . She has a wonderful voice; I especially like her humor, her political asides, and her off beat jokes.  On Friday night however, McKay was not offbeat, she was just off. She did not acknowledge the audience and in fact did her best to alienate everyone. She made a crack about choosing to shop at Conway rather then preparing for the show. It was evident that she opted for the shopping trip. She lugged along a suitcase full of music books and song sheets  but seemed frustrated and dissatisfied with her own selections&#8211;at one point, throwing the sheet music into the air. She was ungracious, disrespectful of her host, the museum, and appeared almost catatonic at times. Nellie McKay is a true talent but her attitude towards the audience was rude at best&#8211;and totally unprofessional.  Perhaps McKay should stick with composing and studio gigs&#8211;and leave live performances to musicians who are happy connecting with their fans.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Britney, parsed. by Mollie</title>
		<link>http://culturebot.org/2008/04/29/britney-parsed/#comment-1131</link>
		<dc:creator>Mollie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cover band is Travis--I didn't mean that if you'd never heard that cover you'd been living under a rock, just that if you'd never heard the original you'd been living under a rock!  I'm flattered that you linked, especially because my blog is so new.  

It's funny, because although I was a teenager when Britney hit the scene, I also always thought of her dismissively, until her recent antics prompted me to do some research (gossip sites and pop music videos are totally research!), and there are some really interesting things going on there.  I'll definitely be writing about it some more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cover band is Travis&#8211;I didn&#8217;t mean that if you&#8217;d never heard that cover you&#8217;d been living under a rock, just that if you&#8217;d never heard the original you&#8217;d been living under a rock!  I&#8217;m flattered that you linked, especially because my blog is so new.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny, because although I was a teenager when Britney hit the scene, I also always thought of her dismissively, until her recent antics prompted me to do some research (gossip sites and pop music videos are totally research!), and there are some really interesting things going on there.  I&#8217;ll definitely be writing about it some more.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A.N.T. Fest 08 by memory theatre</title>
		<link>http://culturebot.org/2008/04/24/ant-fest-08/#comment-1118</link>
		<dc:creator>memory theatre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] showcasing fresh material from today??s most daring emerging artists. The open submission phttp://culturebot.org/2008/04/24/ant-fest-08/Interactive murder mystery still slays audiences Toronto StarVariety is the spice of life. That's a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] showcasing fresh material from today??s most daring emerging artists. The open submission phttp://culturebot.org/2008/04/24/ant-fest-08/Interactive murder mystery still slays audiences Toronto StarVariety is the spice of life. That&#8217;s a [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on When is a clock not a clock&#8230;? by freeman</title>
		<link>http://culturebot.org/2008/04/15/when-is-a-clock-not-a-clock/#comment-1051</link>
		<dc:creator>freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for linking to our production. No arguments from me...she is awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for linking to our production. No arguments from me&#8230;she is awesome!</p>
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		<title>Comment on quick thoughts on the arts and american society by Aaron Landsman</title>
		<link>http://culturebot.org/2008/04/12/quick-thoughts-on-the-arts-and-american-society/#comment-1035</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Landsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 01:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm glad you're writing about this. 

My two cents is (and this is not something I say about many issues) is that it can only start with us valuing ourselves more. When we do that other people might, too. 

I see many artists and small companies forgo paying themselves for their work, for a whole slew of very understandable reasons. Companies won't commit to paying or asking for decent;  everyone goes along with it, then everyone feels victimized and complains that there's no money.

I think, and I mean this, it's time for some of us to turn down the gigs that don't pay enough. To tell the NPN, for example, that their contracted rates of pay for touring productions is not close to a living wage. Hell, maybe we even get on Equity's case because even their off-Broadway pay scale is pretty damn low. 

Whenever we decide not to get paid (because we need that extra prop or we think we need that gig at the TBA festival or we need whatever else), we set the bar lower for our entire field.

I am not saying I believe that it's a quick fix - that if we all start asking for more dough it's gonna rain down from the newly opened skies, but I do think that when we agree to NOT be compensated for what we do, and we don't even make it clear to ourselves that that's what we're doing, we're hobbling ourselves. 

We have to make a commitment to ourselves first, as artists, and then I do think the institutions, funders and audiences will begin to follow. I've seen it play out in the workshops I teach across the country. It actually starts with us.

So, a campaign to make people value us more? I'd say we start reminding each other what we're worth first. And what we're worth is what we decide we're worth. 

Here's what i suggest we all do:

1. Figure out what it takes you to live for a year, comfortably (including a little rainy-day money, health insurance and a vacation - a what? a vacation!) Like, not what you think you can squeak by on, but what would it cost to really live the decent life that allows you to function creatively at your best. For everyone it will probably be a bit different. You might have to go back to your taxes and your pay stubs, but really do the math and think about this. This is what normal citizens do. 

2. From that annual figure, break it down into a weekly rate, a day rate and an hourly. 

3. Next time someone says they want to hire you for some artistic gig or another, see if what they're offering is going to pay for what your time really costs, based on these rates. 

4. If not, then you have some choices: You can decide the work is important enough for you to partially subsidize by taking the lower amount. Or, you can turn it down flat because it's not enough. OR, you can go back and say, "I need to make more than that for me to be able to do this work, which I really love doing, but I can't lose money on it or eventually I'll have to stop. Can you come up with some more." Maybe they'll cough up some more dough. Maybe they won't. Then you all have more choices to make. Either way, you'll have initiated a conversation that is honest and edifying. 

The bottom line is that if you know what your life costs you, then you can start having a real conversation with funders, presenters and colleagues. And you can make meaningful decisions that contribute to how all of us are valued. 

We are all subsidizing the arts to some degree. That will not change, probably. But we do have a choice as to how far we're willing to go with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re writing about this. </p>
<p>My two cents is (and this is not something I say about many issues) is that it can only start with us valuing ourselves more. When we do that other people might, too. </p>
<p>I see many artists and small companies forgo paying themselves for their work, for a whole slew of very understandable reasons. Companies won&#8217;t commit to paying or asking for decent;  everyone goes along with it, then everyone feels victimized and complains that there&#8217;s no money.</p>
<p>I think, and I mean this, it&#8217;s time for some of us to turn down the gigs that don&#8217;t pay enough. To tell the NPN, for example, that their contracted rates of pay for touring productions is not close to a living wage. Hell, maybe we even get on Equity&#8217;s case because even their off-Broadway pay scale is pretty damn low. </p>
<p>Whenever we decide not to get paid (because we need that extra prop or we think we need that gig at the TBA festival or we need whatever else), we set the bar lower for our entire field.</p>
<p>I am not saying I believe that it&#8217;s a quick fix - that if we all start asking for more dough it&#8217;s gonna rain down from the newly opened skies, but I do think that when we agree to NOT be compensated for what we do, and we don&#8217;t even make it clear to ourselves that that&#8217;s what we&#8217;re doing, we&#8217;re hobbling ourselves. </p>
<p>We have to make a commitment to ourselves first, as artists, and then I do think the institutions, funders and audiences will begin to follow. I&#8217;ve seen it play out in the workshops I teach across the country. It actually starts with us.</p>
<p>So, a campaign to make people value us more? I&#8217;d say we start reminding each other what we&#8217;re worth first. And what we&#8217;re worth is what we decide we&#8217;re worth. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what i suggest we all do:</p>
<p>1. Figure out what it takes you to live for a year, comfortably (including a little rainy-day money, health insurance and a vacation - a what? a vacation!) Like, not what you think you can squeak by on, but what would it cost to really live the decent life that allows you to function creatively at your best. For everyone it will probably be a bit different. You might have to go back to your taxes and your pay stubs, but really do the math and think about this. This is what normal citizens do. </p>
<p>2. From that annual figure, break it down into a weekly rate, a day rate and an hourly. </p>
<p>3. Next time someone says they want to hire you for some artistic gig or another, see if what they&#8217;re offering is going to pay for what your time really costs, based on these rates. </p>
<p>4. If not, then you have some choices: You can decide the work is important enough for you to partially subsidize by taking the lower amount. Or, you can turn it down flat because it&#8217;s not enough. OR, you can go back and say, &#8220;I need to make more than that for me to be able to do this work, which I really love doing, but I can&#8217;t lose money on it or eventually I&#8217;ll have to stop. Can you come up with some more.&#8221; Maybe they&#8217;ll cough up some more dough. Maybe they won&#8217;t. Then you all have more choices to make. Either way, you&#8217;ll have initiated a conversation that is honest and edifying. </p>
<p>The bottom line is that if you know what your life costs you, then you can start having a real conversation with funders, presenters and colleagues. And you can make meaningful decisions that contribute to how all of us are valued. </p>
<p>We are all subsidizing the arts to some degree. That will not change, probably. But we do have a choice as to how far we&#8217;re willing to go with that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Off-Off Broadway Study by dan f</title>
		<link>http://culturebot.org/2008/04/08/off-off-broadway-study/#comment-1019</link>
		<dc:creator>dan f</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is like porn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is like porn.</p>
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		<title>Comment on compani javedani at TribecaPAC by Marie-Chantal Daoud</title>
		<link>http://culturebot.org/2008/04/01/compani-javedani-at-tribecapac/#comment-1011</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie-Chantal Daoud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 06:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen their work three times this last year, and it was a real treat. Quite by accident, i first saw them last summer performing at the Lincoln Center Festival and was intrigued, great music choices, beautiful diverse dancers. Probably one of New York's best kept secrets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen their work three times this last year, and it was a real treat. Quite by accident, i first saw them last summer performing at the Lincoln Center Festival and was intrigued, great music choices, beautiful diverse dancers. Probably one of New York&#8217;s best kept secrets.</p>
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		<title>Comment on compani javedani at TribecaPAC by David Cleaver</title>
		<link>http://culturebot.org/2008/04/01/compani-javedani-at-tribecapac/#comment-1010</link>
		<dc:creator>David Cleaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 19:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the mention!</description>
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		<title>Comment on death by water by Liza</title>
		<link>http://culturebot.org/2008/02/19/death-by-water/#comment-1009</link>
		<dc:creator>Liza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*THEIR stuff...cringe</description>
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